Race & BDSM w/ Luna Matatas & Marla Renee Stewart – Ep 136

On episode 136 of American Sex Podcast, we talk about the intersection of race and kink with Luna Matatas and Marla Renee Stewart. Learn how casual and not so casual racism shows up in structural, cultural, and interpersonal contexts in the BDSM scene; if and when the labels Master/slave are appropriate; and if race play is taboo in all contexts. We discuss the hypocrisy of claiming kink spaces are no place for political or racial discussions while appropriating oppressive power dynamics for personal enjoyment, things allies can do to make these communities more welcome to all, and more.

Marla Renee Stewart Bio

Marla Renee Stewart, MA is a sexologist and a sex coach who runs her own sexuality education company, Velvet Lips and is also a Co-Founder of the Sex Down South Conference. She has studied human sexuality for more than 19 years and has given over 400 workshops all over the world. She also has been featured on a variety of media outlets, including Netflix’s Trigger Warning with Killer Mike and Love & HipHop Atlanta. She co-wrote her first book, The Ultimate Guide to Seduction & Foreplay with Dr. Jessica O’Reilly, which debuted in April 2020.

Luna Matatas Bio

Luna Matatas is a Sex and Pleasure Educator with over 10 years of experience in sexual health and wellness internationally and locally.  Her playful approach to sexuality draws on the creativity, confidence and communication skills we all need to fulfill our pleasure potentials.  She teaches people how to build a better relationship to their bodies, practice empathy with their partner’s insecurities and needs, and how to get curious about their erotic imagination. Luna’s classes are trauma and equity informed and include pleasure topics like anal play to feminine dominance to how to have a threesome. Luna is the creator of Peg the Patriarchy, Meditate Medicate Masturbate and Fuck Like a Goddess brands.


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  1. eric davis
    eric davis says:

    I just found your podcast on Spotify and listened to this episode. It was very insightful. As a black straight male just starting out in my kink journey, I’m finding my Kink side and my History/Social Justice sides don’t mix. For an example when I go to a swingers club and find a playmate, in the back of my head there is a voice that is saying did we hook up because she likes me or because I’m fulfilling some BBC fantasy of hers? Your guests was very helpful and I regret that I just found you podcast. But you now have a new fan. Keep up the great work!!


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